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Euro-American Cold War (WIP) by DaneOfScandinavy Euro-American Cold War (WIP) by DaneOfScandinavy
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EmperorsGuard Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014
I think I did something like this once. 
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
This world seems like even MORE of a powder keg than OTL's Cold War....
Brazilian Commonwealth as a wild-card faction, split loyalties between members of the bigger blocs, massive armed forces... 
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Serahne Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
*sigh*
... and then the world will fall in a nuclear war which will destroy the earth ~ end.

Despressing, but nice job anyway :)
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MistaSilentKiller Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What about the rest of the Maghreb? shouldn't they be with CAU?
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013
When Turkey became a major power, they established the CAU as part of their sphere of influence. The reason why I didn't include the other Maghreb countries is that these countries are closer to France than to Turkey, and also, according to George Friedman (an American political scientist), the Turkish sphere of influence wouldn't extend any further into Africa. Take a look at this map: 1.bp.blogspot.com/_bhRxp3VdDGQ…
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MistaSilentKiller Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I see, but that still doesn't make the Maghreb puppets to the Europeans, Algerians rather be wiped out completely then letting their country be taken by an invader.
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013
I see your point, but when Turkey joined the EFU, the CAU also became part of the Eurosphere. And actually, the countries are not puppets, but rather just really close allies.
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MistaSilentKiller Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh I see
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gatemonger Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2013
I've thought about the fact that while the Euro-Crisis is going on, the Europeanist elite might try evoking some type of anti-American nationalism I the European ideology erodes too much to hold it together. Think about how Bismarck used the threat of France to pull the German Confederation together into a unified state in the 19th century, amidst a war meant in part to help cohere the new German Empire.
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
I doubt it, and I can't really see why the crisis should make Europeans anti-American, because the only thing the crisis does is splitting Europe apart.  However, I can assure you that the US surveillance makes Europeans more anti-American. 
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gatemonger Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013

I didn't explain well enough. The scenario I envisioned involved Europe being split up thanks to the crisis and anti-Americanism becoming the ideology spread by the government to help cohere Europe, America becoming the scapegoat for Europe's problems (think Jews in Nazi Germany or Chinese nationalism nowadays directed against the Japanese or others). I love the scenario you put forward. :) I just wanted to use the opportunity to share my ideas. But I hope I explained myself well enough this time.

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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
Your explanation is fine, and thanks. :)

Yes, some Europeans probably blame the US for the crisis, as it started there, but it will never become a majority. What I fear more is the rising nationalism and xenophobia in Southern Europe, especially in Greece, which is on the way of becoming a neo-Nazi state led by Golden Dawn. And terrorists like Norwegian Anders Breivik are becoming more and more common. We can no longer be sure who are a threat to society, and it's a sad truth that surveillance and phone tapping might be necessary to stop terrorists.
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gatemonger Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
Agreed regarding the S. European nationalism and the surveillance. I saw elsewhere that you are familiar with George Friedman's work. He revealed somewhere that he's in the middle of writing a book on the subject of nationalism in Europe, so I'd keep an eye out for that. I love his two most recent books, so if you haven't read them I definitely recommend it. I don't agree with every facet of his scenarios, but they're still informative and eye-opening reads.
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013
No, I haven't actually read any of his books,  but I plan on doing so. I became familiar with him through YNot1989, who has made a timeline based on his books, and I agree with most of his predictions. 
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GibbleGarp Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013
Me personally, this has got to be your most interesting map EVER! Alright, but what are the pro's and con's of each nation? 
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013
Thanks! :) Well, as I said below, Europe is mainly liberal and socialist, whereas the US is still capitalistic and conservative. Europe is freer (has more democracy) than the US, and the US also uses more surveillance on its people. So basically, Europe is liberal/socialist democracy, whereas the US is more of a conservative Big Brother-state. I know that sounds kind of black and white, but I've had the idea of a conflict between Europe and the US ever since all that stuff with Wikileaks and whistleblowing started, with Europe being the "good guy"". Oher than that, I guess the pros and cons are pretty much the same as those of the US and Europe now.
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MTT3008 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013
Now I am curious what the cultural differences would be between these two blocks.
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013
Well, the culture of the Pacific World would be a combination of American and Asian culture, with buddhism and other Asian religions having large minorities in the America's and Australia. Actually, I think Gangnam Style is a sign that the "Pacific World" will be created. Also, the countries of the Pacific World are capitalistic and although conservative, not too conservative.

The European World would have a mainly European culture, mixed with some Islamic and African culture, and it would be a liberal, socialist and multiculturalist "world".
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Ask--Runningleaf Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Student
If this was real.... USA WOULD BE WINNING! ;D
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DaneOfScandinavy Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013
Well, as this is a Cold War, there aren't really any winner. However, if a war should break out, then it would be super-massive and we would just end up annihilating ourselves and making humanity go extinct. I don't think anyone thinks that's a good idea ;)
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